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mandela in prison, it would have been a far different country and they wouldn't have had nelson mandela to have that period of reflection to develop the philosophy he did. in a way, his imprisonment served not only him well, but his people well. because he was able to come out of there, having reflected on all those long nights. it was cruel and inhumane what they did to him. but in the end, it made him what he became. he became this beacon of hope, survival, and the intellectual torch carrier for freeing people everywhere, with dignity and reaching across the lines that had divided them. >> yeah, you say that dignity. and it is really in the name that we associate. i was looking back at some of your older writings. and before the 2008 election, when barack obama's political fate had not at all been decided, you wrote about the hope that his election in 2008, as the first black president, could actually create something of a mandela moment for the united states. has that happened? >> well, i -- i do think that mandela is -- as obama said, one of a kind. and obama invokes some of the hop
mandela in prison, it would have been a far different country and they wouldn't have had nelson mandela to have that period of reflection to develop the philosophy he did. in a way, his imprisonment served not only him well, but his people well. because he was able to come out of there, having reflected on all those long nights. it was cruel and inhumane what they did to him. but in the end, it made him what he became. he became this beacon of hope, survival, and the intellectual torch carrier...
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nelson mandela, nelson mandela, akekho ofana naye. [applause] the song is one of the most accurate descriptions of this global icon who is the founding president of a free and democratic south africa and also the former president of the oldest liberation movement in the continent, the anc. [applause] his passing has marked an unprecedented outpouring of grief across the world. yet, it is grief, tinged with admiration and celebration. everyone has had a mandela moment, when this world icon has touched their lives. let us begin, therefore, by thanking all the heads of state and government, international delegations present here today. we also extend our deepest gratitude for the messages of condolences that we continue to receive. the mandela family, the south african people, and the african continent as a whole, feel stronger today, because we are being comforted by millions throughout the world. dear south africans, that we are madiba's compatriots and have lived during his time is a cause for a great celebration and enormous pride. n
nelson mandela, nelson mandela, akekho ofana naye. [applause] the song is one of the most accurate descriptions of this global icon who is the founding president of a free and democratic south africa and also the former president of the oldest liberation movement in the continent, the anc. [applause] his passing has marked an unprecedented outpouring of grief across the world. yet, it is grief, tinged with admiration and celebration. everyone has had a mandela moment, when this world icon has...
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. >> a massive memorial service for nelson mandela this morning. historic gathering of world leaders. and how close are we to an actual nuclear deal with iran? secretary kerry tried to convince congressional skeptics from both sides of the aisle today. we'll talk to the chairman leading that hearing, ed royce. plus, a primary problem for the number two senate republican, an old clinton confidant headed back to the west wing. that and more in today's databank. good morning. it's tuesday, december 10th. taking a deep zbooif the suburbs in about 20 30 minutes. we'll have the latest on the wave of snow across the northeast that you can see many the live footage behind me. the white house almost looks like blizzard conditions with our camera there. we'll begin in south africa and the massive memorial service for nelson mandela. the so i remember is still going on at the fnb soccer stadium in see wee toe. 95,000 seats in that stadium, the largest on the entire african continent. more than 90 world leaders and thousands of south africans braifd incredibly
. >> a massive memorial service for nelson mandela this morning. historic gathering of world leaders. and how close are we to an actual nuclear deal with iran? secretary kerry tried to convince congressional skeptics from both sides of the aisle today. we'll talk to the chairman leading that hearing, ed royce. plus, a primary problem for the number two senate republican, an old clinton confidant headed back to the west wing. that and more in today's databank. good morning. it's tuesday,...
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span2ll take you over to c- to show the memorial for nelson mandela. we the next five minutes, will be talking about unemployment benefits. laurel, maryland. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. that is the only place we can state our opinion. efficiency, efficiency, efficiency. there is so much waste in every part of the government. it doesn't matter what it is. if they take those, it is going to be surplus in the budget. it is not going to be deficit. there is no way for me to accept handout. you looke unemployed, for work. if they pay you less, take the less. it is better than taking the handout. some of the callers mentioned israel. and the jewish people hate that. that is the government of israel. taking that and putting that in their pocket. host: some of the money should be spent here at home to extend unemployment insurance benefits. do you think that is a good route to go? caller: that is a copout. somed states has to have helping hand. it doesn't has to go all to israel. it has to go somewhere to the people. they
span2ll take you over to c- to show the memorial for nelson mandela. we the next five minutes, will be talking about unemployment benefits. laurel, maryland. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. that is the only place we can state our opinion. efficiency, efficiency, efficiency. there is so much waste in every part of the government. it doesn't matter what it is. if they take those, it is going to be surplus in the budget. it is not going to be deficit. there is no...
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we will never see the likes of nelson mandela again. but let me say to the young people of africa and the young people around the world, you too can make his life worth your own. over 30 years ago while still a student, i learned of nelson mandela and the struggles taking place in this beautiful land, and it stirred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and it set me on an improbable journey that find me here today. and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside. after this great liberator is laid to rest and when we've returned to our cities and villages and rejoin our daily routines, let us search for his strength. let us search for his largeness of spirit somewhere inside of ourselves. and when the night grows dark, when injustice weighs heavy on our heart, when our best laid plans seem beyond our reach, let us think of mad i ba and the words that brought him comfort within the four walls of his cell. it matters not h
we will never see the likes of nelson mandela again. but let me say to the young people of africa and the young people around the world, you too can make his life worth your own. over 30 years ago while still a student, i learned of nelson mandela and the struggles taking place in this beautiful land, and it stirred something in me. it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and it set me on an improbable journey that find me here today. and while i will always fall short of...
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. >>> coming up next -- >> my name is nelson mandela. >> idris elba, yes, the idris elba who plays nelson mandela in a new film will be my zest right here, next. >>> this is your final warning! [ shots ] >> cease-fire! >> find the guy. you'd better find that! >> we no longer accept the authority of a state that makes war on its own people. >> march 21st, 1960, 69 black south africans were shot and killed in the township of sharpeville, protesting what were known as the pass laws, legislation designed by south africa's apartheid government to control the movement of black south africans. the laws required all black men and women to carry what was essentially a passport containing all their personal details, and anyone caught in a public place without this information would be arrested. on that day, 53 years ago, thousands of black south africans showed up to the sharpeville's police station without their passbooks with the sole purpose of being arrested. they thought this would cause prisons to become overcrowded, labor to halt and grind the government to a halt. instead, it became a blood
. >>> coming up next -- >> my name is nelson mandela. >> idris elba, yes, the idris elba who plays nelson mandela in a new film will be my zest right here, next. >>> this is your final warning! [ shots ] >> cease-fire! >> find the guy. you'd better find that! >> we no longer accept the authority of a state that makes war on its own people. >> march 21st, 1960, 69 black south africans were shot and killed in the township of sharpeville,...
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your thoughts, gene. >> well, who nelson mandela really was, i think we know who nelson mandela really was. and you know, i suppose, if you wanted to take this at all seriously, you could say that these are people who have some sort of knee-jerk reaction against any sort of antiestablishmentarian action such as that taken by the anc, but if you're going to put nelson mandela in that terrorist category, you'd have to put george washington there for rebelling against the british in the name of freedom. i mean, that's -- >> gene, suppose there was a country where blacks held the whites in servitude, made them carry passbooks, wouldn't allow them to do anything. do you think somebody might be looking to their second amendment rights to try to change this? >> yeah. >> familiar. >> it sounds like it's a different standard, like this woman out in nevada -- "i might have to use my second amendment rights." suppose the president was from another tribal group or a different racial ethnic group and you had no rights. do you think you might resort to those second amendment? the idea of saying he r
your thoughts, gene. >> well, who nelson mandela really was, i think we know who nelson mandela really was. and you know, i suppose, if you wanted to take this at all seriously, you could say that these are people who have some sort of knee-jerk reaction against any sort of antiestablishmentarian action such as that taken by the anc, but if you're going to put nelson mandela in that terrorist category, you'd have to put george washington there for rebelling against the british in the name...
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mandela coverage, starting at 3:30 eastern time, >>> out front, next, the memorial for nelson mandela will be unlike any we have ever seen, and who will be sitting next to the president of the united states? >>> then the nsa is spying on america video gamers. what are they hoping to find in the worlds of war craft. and what happened to cause a plane to crash in san francisco? is the problem getting worse? >>> i'm jake tapper in for erin burnett. just hours from now, the president and nearly 100 other world leaders will join thousands of mourners to pay respects to nelson mandela.
mandela coverage, starting at 3:30 eastern time, >>> out front, next, the memorial for nelson mandela will be unlike any we have ever seen, and who will be sitting next to the president of the united states? >>> then the nsa is spying on america video gamers. what are they hoping to find in the worlds of war craft. and what happened to cause a plane to crash in san francisco? is the problem getting worse? >>> i'm jake tapper in for erin burnett. just hours from now,...
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mandela. president obama will be the first head of state to speak at the memorial tuesday. former president george w. bush and former first lady laura bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, are also traveling on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> up next, republicans are still having some problems, some big problems talking to women voters. in the nation, sometimes bad things happen. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we'll replace stolen or destroyed items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help! i have my reasons. look, you do
mandela. president obama will be the first head of state to speak at the memorial tuesday. former president george w. bush and former first lady laura bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, are also traveling on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time....
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where leaders are moving in now to remember nelson mandela. nearly 100 heads of state and leaders, former president of the country, nelson mandela died thursday at the age of 95. a national tribute to mandela will take place at a johannesburg soccer stadium with thousands of ordinary south africans, including cube afternoon president raul castro. al al jazeera's ali velshi is joining us from south africa. tell us what you're seeing, there are so many dignitaries there for the commemoration of his life. >> i heard said, short of the united nations, this is the largest gathering ever held. like president obama and president george w. bush. jimmy carter arrived earlier, we were actually on the same plane, and i subsequently sat down with him and interviewed him to discuss his relationship, his long standing and very close relationship with nelson mandela. interesting point as the world celebrates nelson mandela jimmy carter says in all the times he talked to him nelson mandela never thanked him for what the american government had done to end apa
where leaders are moving in now to remember nelson mandela. nearly 100 heads of state and leaders, former president of the country, nelson mandela died thursday at the age of 95. a national tribute to mandela will take place at a johannesburg soccer stadium with thousands of ordinary south africans, including cube afternoon president raul castro. al al jazeera's ali velshi is joining us from south africa. tell us what you're seeing, there are so many dignitaries there for the commemoration of...
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biden said at the meeting that nelson mandela was "the most remarkable man i ever met in my whole career." a few hours before the vice president's trip to the embassy, president obama and first lady michelle obama boarded "air force one" to start the long, 16-hour flight to south africa, where they will attend the memorial service for nelson mandela that will be held tomorrow morning. as we speak, world leaders from every corner of the globe are on their way to south africa for that memorial service and for the funeral and other events that are going to take place there over the next few days. the american delegation to south africa includes not only president obama and the first lady, but also three former presidents, george w. bush will be there and president clinton and jimmy carter. this appears to be on the second time in u.s. history that that many presidents, four living presidents, will be together, somewhere outside the united states. the only other time that has ever happened in history was at the funeral of jordan's king hussein back in 1999, when the president was bill clinto
biden said at the meeting that nelson mandela was "the most remarkable man i ever met in my whole career." a few hours before the vice president's trip to the embassy, president obama and first lady michelle obama boarded "air force one" to start the long, 16-hour flight to south africa, where they will attend the memorial service for nelson mandela that will be held tomorrow morning. as we speak, world leaders from every corner of the globe are on their way to south africa...
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what was that moment like when the gates opened and you saw nelson mandela? where. >> always working in reverse of what could go wrong. i would get one frame in focus. i would have time before the crowd would break. and my concern was i could get one photograph out of focus, and i always thought i only had two or three frames, i had actually 26, they were all in focus. in those days it was film. the next thing you're doing is unrolling it to make sure it is back in the canister and light has not been exposed to it. and putting it in your front pocket. so i put that in my front pocket, jumped in a car to race to follow the mote cade to be in front of the city hall. >> you ended up inside city hall in the meeting room with desmond tutu and jesse jackson and others who were waiting for mandela. that is hustle. >> yes, this is where i do get actually quite emotional, because you could hear the crowds outside, of course they didn't know we were inside. and tutu picks up the phone and says you have to come, if you don't, they will tear the place down. the door open
what was that moment like when the gates opened and you saw nelson mandela? where. >> always working in reverse of what could go wrong. i would get one frame in focus. i would have time before the crowd would break. and my concern was i could get one photograph out of focus, and i always thought i only had two or three frames, i had actually 26, they were all in focus. in those days it was film. the next thing you're doing is unrolling it to make sure it is back in the canister and light...
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mandela. hitching a ride on air force one th the president and michele obama, former president george w. bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton. bill clinton and jimmy carter also expected to attend the memorial but they are traveling separately. and a collection of troubling new obamacareevelopments tonight. the architect of the president's health care law moing along substantially when it comes to the president's impetus and false declaration that we could keep our doctors if we wanted to. here is ezekiel emanuel on fox news sunday. >> didn't they s if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor? >> yes. >> but if you want to pay more, you can do that. this is a matter of choice. andif yo want to, you can pay for it. lou: he would be called an elitist for his remarks if he were a republican, so h gets away with it as a liberal. "the wall street journal" reporting that lower income individuals may be able to report on obamacare plans, but not the astronomical deductibles that
mandela. hitching a ride on air force one th the president and michele obama, former president george w. bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton. bill clinton and jimmy carter also expected to attend the memorial but they are traveling separately. and a collection of troubling new obamacareevelopments tonight. the architect of the president's health care law moing along substantially when it comes to the president's impetus and false declaration that we could keep our doctors if we...
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mandela. president obama will be the first head of state to speak at the memorial tuesday. former president george w. bush and former first lady laura bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, are also traveling on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> up next, republicans are still having some problems, some big problems talking to women voters. in the nation, we know how you feel about your car. so when coverage really counts, count on nationwide insurance. because what's precious to you is precious to us. ♪ love, love is strange just another way we put members first. because we don't have shareholders. join the nation. ♪ baby... ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ ...are the hands that do good things for the whole community: the environment, seniors,
mandela. president obama will be the first head of state to speak at the memorial tuesday. former president george w. bush and former first lady laura bush and former secretary of state, hillary clinton, are also traveling on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time....
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and of course, it's all for nelson mandela. he will come to lie in state at the union buildings behind us here in the capital city of pretoria. the outpouring has been so great since his death, the number of dignitaries arriving here is so large, this nation is going to be pushed to capacity in terms of crowd control and transportation and accommodations and security, starting really when the sun comes up tomorrow. they are scrambling to accommodate presidents and kings and citizens. all while this country remains, of course, in mourning for this global figure that they happen to share with the world. so we will begin our coverage tonight with nbc's lester holt. he is just to the south of us outside the mandela home in soweto, the township where tomorrow's service will take place. lester, good evening. >> reporter: hey, brian. good evening. you have to believe the largest stadium on the african continent isn't big enough to accommodate all those who would like to say farewell to nelson mandela. that guest list is impressive. it
and of course, it's all for nelson mandela. he will come to lie in state at the union buildings behind us here in the capital city of pretoria. the outpouring has been so great since his death, the number of dignitaries arriving here is so large, this nation is going to be pushed to capacity in terms of crowd control and transportation and accommodations and security, starting really when the sun comes up tomorrow. they are scrambling to accommodate presidents and kings and citizens. all while...
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president obama is on his way to south africa for tomorrow's memorial for nelson mandela. also aboard air force one are the first lady, former president george w. bush and his wife and former secretary of state hillary clinton. former presidents clinton and carter are traveling separately. mark phillips is in johannesburg. >> reporter: when the life being remembered is nelson mandela's life, even the family dances as it mourns. this is the oldest grandson and now, as oldest male, head of the mandela clan. he could only move through the crowd of dancers by joining them. he was meeting up with the rest of the family at the mandela home. they had gathered to go together to a last private viewing of the body, still being held in a military morgue, before the mandela farewell becomes a grand event. as many as 100 world leaders have said they'll attend the first and largest event of the week-long commemoration. the memorial service expected to fill the national soccer stadium. with much of the world's ruling class on hand, along with president obama, security is a huge concern a
president obama is on his way to south africa for tomorrow's memorial for nelson mandela. also aboard air force one are the first lady, former president george w. bush and his wife and former secretary of state hillary clinton. former presidents clinton and carter are traveling separately. mark phillips is in johannesburg. >> reporter: when the life being remembered is nelson mandela's life, even the family dances as it mourns. this is the oldest grandson and now, as oldest male, head of...
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what was that day like when the gates opened and you saw nelson mandela? >> well, the opposite is the gates could open and something could go wrong. and my concern was i could get one photograph out of focus, and i always thought i only had two or three frames, i had actually 26, they were all in focus. in those days it was film. the next thing you're doing is unrolling it to make sure it is back in the canister and light has not been exposed to it. and putting it in your front pocket. so i put that in my front pocket, jump understand the car, raced to follow the motorcade to be in front of the city hall, to find -- >> you ended up inside city hall in the meeting room with desmond tutu and jesse jackson and others who were waiting for man deadly a. that is hustle. >> yes, this is where i do get actually quite emotional, because you could hear the crowds outside, of course they didn't know we were inside. and tutu picks up the phone and says you have to come, if you don't, they will tear the place down. the door opens, and in walks 6'3" nelson mandela, the
what was that day like when the gates opened and you saw nelson mandela? >> well, the opposite is the gates could open and something could go wrong. and my concern was i could get one photograph out of focus, and i always thought i only had two or three frames, i had actually 26, they were all in focus. in those days it was film. the next thing you're doing is unrolling it to make sure it is back in the canister and light has not been exposed to it. and putting it in your front pocket. so...
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dignitaries are converging on south africa to pay their respects to nelson mandela. pentagon's plans for central african republic. coming up. power outages across the country, all because of one big storm that is still causing trouble. radio. >> world leaders from nearly 100 nations are making their way to south africa to honor one man: nelson mandela. a public memorial service will be held for the iconic leader tomorrow. ali velshi is in johannesburg with more on the di dignitaries arriving in south africa. >> the dignitaries are coming. some are still on their way. i was on the plane with jimmy carter, he spoke to me, he said in all the years he has known nelson mandela, nelson mandela never thanked him for what the american government did to end apartheid. here is why. >> i would say after i had many talks with nelson mandela, i never heard him say that he was grateful to the united states. he was greafer to cuba, he was -- greafer t grateful to ott spoke up for him when he was still in prison. he was grateful to others who condemned the apartheid regime. but i do
dignitaries are converging on south africa to pay their respects to nelson mandela. pentagon's plans for central african republic. coming up. power outages across the country, all because of one big storm that is still causing trouble. radio. >> world leaders from nearly 100 nations are making their way to south africa to honor one man: nelson mandela. a public memorial service will be held for the iconic leader tomorrow. ali velshi is in johannesburg with more on the di dignitaries...
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it will be held in soweto where nelson mandela made his final public appearance in 2010. ron, you have half of the world's leaders gathering, that stadium seats 95,000. it is an open air and presented significant challenges security wise. >> reporter: yes, there's perhaps not been an event like this ever, dare i say, the most comparable is the funeral of pope john paul ii in 2005 where there was 3 million people and 75 or 80 world leaders who attended. this is going to be an amazing day tomorrow. there's a lot of anticipation already. behind me you can hear people in the streets here still singing and dancing and sell bragt the life of nelson mandela. this has gone on constantly since his death was announced thursday night. they are already starting to shut large parts of this community down. i think that's basically the security solution and approach to the south african government will take. there will be no areas where you can't get near any of these events or near any places where these world leaders are staying. president obama will probably not stay the night and wo
it will be held in soweto where nelson mandela made his final public appearance in 2010. ron, you have half of the world's leaders gathering, that stadium seats 95,000. it is an open air and presented significant challenges security wise. >> reporter: yes, there's perhaps not been an event like this ever, dare i say, the most comparable is the funeral of pope john paul ii in 2005 where there was 3 million people and 75 or 80 world leaders who attended. this is going to be an amazing day...
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after tomorrow's memorial service, nelson mandela will lie in state before his burial on december 15th. >>> a video that shocked the whole country. a state trooper shooting up a mini van filled with kids. now he's fighting to get his job back. hear what his attorney is saying. >>> plus, technology giants uniting to fight government spying? what the likes of facebook and google may be able to do. we will debate that. >>> how many times the president met with kathleen sebelius before the disastrous rollout of the obama care website. and why it's so hard to pin that exact number down. what was it? >> i don't have all the figures in front of me. but if you think about the cabinet and the importance of in this presidency in particular health care matters and health care reform, it's safe to say that kathleen sebelius has been one of the more frequent visitors to -- in attendance of meetings with the president. >> howard kurtz and his media buzz co-host. come on in. >>> fox news extreme weather alert now. wicked storms pummeling much of america today. a dangerous trifecta of snow, ice and ra
after tomorrow's memorial service, nelson mandela will lie in state before his burial on december 15th. >>> a video that shocked the whole country. a state trooper shooting up a mini van filled with kids. now he's fighting to get his job back. hear what his attorney is saying. >>> plus, technology giants uniting to fight government spying? what the likes of facebook and google may be able to do. we will debate that. >>> how many times the president met with kathleen...
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more than 90 world leaders are expected to attend nelson mandela's memorial. efforts to keep them all safe and secure in south africa. >>> car pile ups massive air delays. >>> and major technology companies joining forces to battle the nsa. >>> president obama is on his way to south africa. he is heading the u.s. delegation honoring nelson mandela. the president leaving on air force one just a few hours ago. former president george w. bush and his wife laura are also on board joining first lady michelle obama and the president. president's clinton and carter will attend the service scheduled for tuesday in south africa. george r. h.w bush is the only former president that will not be there. >>> alan is near johannesburg. he has more on how the people of south africa are remembering nelson mandela. and he's a father figure being honored in cities large and small 1234 absolutely, del, and people here and in nelson mandela square in the rain at 7:00 in south africa, a soggy evening, but it doesn't seem to offend the crowds much. they have been coming here constan
more than 90 world leaders are expected to attend nelson mandela's memorial. efforts to keep them all safe and secure in south africa. >>> car pile ups massive air delays. >>> and major technology companies joining forces to battle the nsa. >>> president obama is on his way to south africa. he is heading the u.s. delegation honoring nelson mandela. the president leaving on air force one just a few hours ago. former president george w. bush and his wife laura are also...
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earlier we caught up wwth a grandson of nelson mandela. check out how he is barking his >> thereeis mourniig here but there is joy. the grandson of nelson mandela here in this noisy crowd, the band playing, people are fallen leaaer but also joyful about what happened. nelson mandela spent for of his life, thhy were mournful but sleb -- celebratory. emotion we've seen the last couple of days and we've only seen the peginning of it. nelson mandela will lle in state sundayy n his home villaae about 500 miles away. a long, emotiinal wwek. back to you. indeed. thank you. jon: new claims that the real problem with obamacare is just -pbad p.r. chief obamacare architect ezekieal emmanuel saying the the administtation just has to do aabettee job getttng that pessage out. listen. >> nn oneehas aunched a bbg p.r. campaign to get these people signed up beeause of the problems with the federal website. we are about to launch a big p.r. campaigg and that, iithink, peopleeto siin upp let's ask the conttibuting job? pditor and writer for the american cons
earlier we caught up wwth a grandson of nelson mandela. check out how he is barking his >> thereeis mourniig here but there is joy. the grandson of nelson mandela here in this noisy crowd, the band playing, people are fallen leaaer but also joyful about what happened. nelson mandela spent for of his life, thhy were mournful but sleb -- celebratory. emotion we've seen the last couple of days and we've only seen the peginning of it. nelson mandela will lle in state sundayy n his home...
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not nelson mandela. his example exceeded the highest hopes of the opponents of apartheid and shattered the delusions of those who portrayed him in the african national congress as blood thirsty monsters. instead, bringing disillusionment to the world, he became the most widely admired man on planet earth. he shamed and astonished the world by his forbearance and dignity in the face of all that he and his comrades had suffered at the hands of the apartheid system including the 27 years he'd spent in jail, 27 years. 27 years comes trippingly off the tongue, but try to imagine what that was like. let each of us imagine the last 27 years of our own lives. then substitute for this them the 27 years of pain, deprivation and indignities. 27 years of powerlessness to protect your people, to protect your own family, even denied access to family funerals. during all that time, he and his anc comrades sustained one another by mutual support. but those 27 years of imprisonment were unforgivable. we all know that if
not nelson mandela. his example exceeded the highest hopes of the opponents of apartheid and shattered the delusions of those who portrayed him in the african national congress as blood thirsty monsters. instead, bringing disillusionment to the world, he became the most widely admired man on planet earth. he shamed and astonished the world by his forbearance and dignity in the face of all that he and his comrades had suffered at the hands of the apartheid system including the 27 years he'd...
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inside is nelson mandela's widow and his former wife winnie. the family has been embroiled in squabbling and fighting over the past six mos but she said you would never think so if you walked in there today. they are the picture of unity, coming together, focused only on nelson mandela. now, as i was talking to them they left to go to one military hospital in pretoria. the minister told me that the body of nelson mandela has now been prepared by undertakers and he is draped in the clothes that eventually he will be buried in. they will spend private minutes communing with nelson mandela. charlie, norah, and gayle? >> thank you. >>> congress faces an end of the year deadline this morning. it has a mountain of unfinished work, but there are signs that negotiators will announce a budget agreement before the house goes home on friday. missouri senator claire mccaskill is with us. good morning. >> good morning. >> how significant do you think this agreement will be? >> well, i'm not sure that it's going to solve all of our problems. but it solved th
inside is nelson mandela's widow and his former wife winnie. the family has been embroiled in squabbling and fighting over the past six mos but she said you would never think so if you walked in there today. they are the picture of unity, coming together, focused only on nelson mandela. now, as i was talking to them they left to go to one military hospital in pretoria. the minister told me that the body of nelson mandela has now been prepared by undertakers and he is draped in the clothes that...
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life. ♪ nelson mandela nelson mandela ♪ >> reporter: but to grasp the true measure of what he means to south africa, listen to the children of this land. >> he's the one who fought for our freedom. >> reporter: mandela, who in his 27 years in prison was denied the chance to raise his own children, reached out to kids here when he was president and as an elder statesman with a special flair and joy. because of him, they dream big here now. what do you want to be when you grow up? >> i want to be a lawyer. >> reporter: a lawyer. excellent. >> i want to be a pilot. >> reporter: a pilot. i want to be a police. >> reporter: police? a nation transformed. mandela's body will lie in state right back there in the union building. the center of government. once the center of apartheid's oppression. and this week, the site of the ultimate honor for the man who brought down apartheid. >>> and, terry, that service tomorrow as you mentioned, a a massive memorial service. more than 90,000 people will be there, 90 world leaders. a massive security challenge, too. >> reporter: huge challenge for this
life. ♪ nelson mandela nelson mandela ♪ >> reporter: but to grasp the true measure of what he means to south africa, listen to the children of this land. >> he's the one who fought for our freedom. >> reporter: mandela, who in his 27 years in prison was denied the chance to raise his own children, reached out to kids here when he was president and as an elder statesman with a special flair and joy. because of him, they dream big here now. what do you want to be when you...
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. >>> president obama is in the air right now headed to south africa to honor nelson mandela. security is tight as the soccer stadium there hosts dozens of the most important world leaders. >>> mary landrieu cast the deciding vote for obama care. >> southern democrats under attack. could republicans turn the state red by picking off a few vulnerable dems? good morning, i'm chris jansing. washington lawmakers getting close to something that almost never happens these days, a deal. they're headed back to d.c. right now to hammer out the details, but this budget agreement may not be much to write home about. the "washington post" basically called the agreement a cease-fire. we don't know many of the details but it's no grand bargain. it doesn't deal with entitlements, the debt or tax reform and probably won't completely fix the sequester, but aides for senator patty murray and congressman paul ryan, the budget chairs working on the deal are at least determined to keep the government open and they think they can get the plan together for a vote later this week. one of the final st
. >>> president obama is in the air right now headed to south africa to honor nelson mandela. security is tight as the soccer stadium there hosts dozens of the most important world leaders. >>> mary landrieu cast the deciding vote for obama care. >> southern democrats under attack. could republicans turn the state red by picking off a few vulnerable dems? good morning, i'm chris jansing. washington lawmakers getting close to something that almost never happens these...
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we have a special issue on nelson mandela out right now. for person of the year it has to be someone whose impact is on the news. >> i think it's intriguing for better or for worse we talked about right after 9/11 and there was a huge battle over whether osama bin laden would be on the list. >> and hitler was. this is devicive people. >> let's get to the top ten. bashar assad, ted cruz, miley cyr cyrus. how do you put her on a list with ted cruz and pope francis. how does she factor in? >> power is not political. it can be cultural or political. she came in like a wrecking ball. literally. and at a time when we're living with an explosion of exhibitionism because we all now carry cameras with us at all time. >> so there's a little of miley in all of us? >> i worry. but barrack obama on the list for obvious reasons but he was "time" person of the year last year. >> partly because of the way he used technology to win a second term and now he finds himself having technology trip him up and it seems to have surprised even him. >> we'll see what
we have a special issue on nelson mandela out right now. for person of the year it has to be someone whose impact is on the news. >> i think it's intriguing for better or for worse we talked about right after 9/11 and there was a huge battle over whether osama bin laden would be on the list. >> and hitler was. this is devicive people. >> let's get to the top ten. bashar assad, ted cruz, miley cyr cyrus. how do you put her on a list with ted cruz and pope francis. how does she...
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nelson mandela will lie in state for three days and be buried sunday. more than 60 world leaders plan to attend. president obama and the first lady left less than an hour ago. former president bush and his wife laura joined them after flying in from dallas overnight to avoid bad weather. hillary clinton is also on board air force 1. bill clinton is flying for rio where he was attending a clinton global initiative. the carters are flying in separately via a delegation that is with the elders in london. prince charles and david cameron will thereby as well as former prime ministers, tony blair, gordon brown and john major. leaders from chine a cuba, japan and mexico plan to be there too. security is a real concern and police are already running drills and shutting down streets. we haven't seen this kind of attendance since at least 1999 when dignitaries from 55 countries attended king hussein's funeral. leaders from more than 110 countries attended winston churchill's in 1965. turning now to the wicked winter weather for much of the country, air force one
nelson mandela will lie in state for three days and be buried sunday. more than 60 world leaders plan to attend. president obama and the first lady left less than an hour ago. former president bush and his wife laura joined them after flying in from dallas overnight to avoid bad weather. hillary clinton is also on board air force 1. bill clinton is flying for rio where he was attending a clinton global initiative. the carters are flying in separately via a delegation that is with the elders in...
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appreciate it. >>> a special moment to show you between nelson mandela and his great grandson. it's believed to be the last photo taken of the iconic leader. take a look at this picture. it was just taken in may, a month before mandela was hospitalized. the boy's father said that he took the picture believing that it might be the last time to capture them together. this being released as world leaders prepare to attend memorials in mandela's honor. chris cuomo is in johannesburg. >> reporter: here in johannesburg, the long good-bye is in full effect. in front of the his house, the celebration is taking on the character of the man himself. there's a complexity, a lot of dancing and singing. but at the same time there's a sense of purpose that reflects what's going on inside the family's home where they're grieving for the loss of a loved one who meant so much to them and so much to the entire world. tuesday we'll see the largest gathering of world leaders in africa's history. the massive soccer stadium was big enough for the world cup. but the 90,000 seats will hold just a fract
appreciate it. >>> a special moment to show you between nelson mandela and his great grandson. it's believed to be the last photo taken of the iconic leader. take a look at this picture. it was just taken in may, a month before mandela was hospitalized. the boy's father said that he took the picture believing that it might be the last time to capture them together. this being released as world leaders prepare to attend memorials in mandela's honor. chris cuomo is in johannesburg....
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nelson mandela. tomorrows memorial service will serve as a rare reunion of nearly all of the living american presidents. kpix5 is in the news room now and the number of dig any tar its i imagine is giving south african police quite a security challenge. >> reporter: yes, frank. more than 80,000 mourners are expected to attend the memorial and thousands of police officers will be on hand and right now a memorial outside nelson mandela's former home is growing as well as a crowd of south africans who have come together since his death. >> police are preparing today for a memorial service for nelson mandela at a soccer stadium tomorrow. president obama leaves this morning for south africa where he will attend the massive public memorial. former presidents bush, clinton and carter will also be in attendance along with more than 50 heads of state, making it one of the largest gatherings the world leaders in recent history. >> this is a test for us. >> the head of south africa's national defense force says
nelson mandela. tomorrows memorial service will serve as a rare reunion of nearly all of the living american presidents. kpix5 is in the news room now and the number of dig any tar its i imagine is giving south african police quite a security challenge. >> reporter: yes, frank. more than 80,000 mourners are expected to attend the memorial and thousands of police officers will be on hand and right now a memorial outside nelson mandela's former home is growing as well as a crowd of south...
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he was on the scene as the news broke that nelson mandela had died. he ties it into a larger theme, the arabif you look at uprising, the groundswell of a desire for good change, and no political leaders should they come into the next era, nelson mandela was able to do that. >> without the help of social media. >> exactly. it was a powerful piece. >> the connection of the top ic and the author. i have to ask you about this amazon store, because it dominated my world last week. it is fundamentally interesting and silly. it doesn't exist command is not legal, they do not have the infrastructure for this thing. why does that capture the fascination of the viewers? it was a huge story last week by deliver that ebay can you things in 30 minutes -- >> drones is where the future is going. people want to be able to see around corners. firstf headlines when they started being talked about, people started to believe that what is not real today might be real in the future. it started to be debated, is this a good thing, or a bad thing? >> is this just a gimmick?
he was on the scene as the news broke that nelson mandela had died. he ties it into a larger theme, the arabif you look at uprising, the groundswell of a desire for good change, and no political leaders should they come into the next era, nelson mandela was able to do that. >> without the help of social media. >> exactly. it was a powerful piece. >> the connection of the top ic and the author. i have to ask you about this amazon store, because it dominated my world last week....
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. >>> mourning and celebrating nelson mandela. world leaders travel to south africa for an unprecedented gathering. >>> and the pittsburgh steelers play hot potato in a frantic final play agasthe dolphins. captioning funded by cbs news" for monday, december 9th, 2013. good morning. >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for monday, december 9th, 2013. good morning. good to be with you. i'm anne-marie green. well, this morning's commute for folks from pennsylvania to new england is going to be a mess. a powerful and deadly storm that started in texas moved east, dropping a mixture of snow, ice, and freezing rain that caused traffic headaches and flight delays, and this morning winter weather advisories and warnings are posted from missouri to maine. marlie hall is here in new york and she is definitely dressed for the challenge this morning. marlie. >> reporter: good morning, anne-marie. this surprisingly strong storm swept across the country, smacking the mid-atlantic region with snow and dangerous deadly ice. the storm slowed traffic
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nelson mandela died last week at the age of 95. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> c-span. we bring public affairs events from washington directly to you, putting you in the room at congressional hearings, white house events, briefings, and conferences, and offering complete gavel-to-gavel coverage of the u.s. house, all as a public service of private industry. we're c-span, created by the cable tv industry 34 years ago and funded by your local cable or satellite provider. and now, you can watch us in h.d. >> the wireline world is the central security or system of our country. it is the veins and arteries that connect what is now the information economy in the united states. we are seeing data traffic increase at the rate of 40% per year. it connects all forms of communication whether they originate in a wireline environment or not. yeah, i would say america is a wireline future. >> the future of communications industry with walter mccormick tonight on the communicators at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> "w
nelson mandela died last week at the age of 95. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. >> c-span. we bring public affairs events from washington directly to you, putting you in the room at congressional hearings, white house events, briefings, and conferences, and offering complete gavel-to-gavel coverage of the u.s. house, all as a public service of private industry. we're c-span, created by the cable tv industry 34 years ago and funded by your local cable or satellite...
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mandela. >> reporter: the music continues here, asking if nelson mandela will rest in peace. eknow that, a man just told me that. he met nelson mandela in prison. they became long time friends. he was a mentor. thank you very much, i'm sorry for your loss. thank you for joining us. right after if riots in 19ex, you were put in prison. so you were a part of the new guard fighting apartheid, that's when you met nelson mandela, certainly the face of the old guard. what was his face to you? >> obviously, it was people socialized into prison life, fighting, virtually all the time. and the folks who were there were trying to say to us, pace yourself, you will be here for a long tie and for to you say here and be comfortable, you need to pace yourself properly. >> reporter: one of the things that separates nelson mandela is not that he didn't feel hate, he didn't feel anger, he didn't know the pain of agreg but what he decided to do which that? how did he get an angry young man like yourself which angry and hatred that surely you deserve to feel? >> i think that he managed all of hi
mandela. >> reporter: the music continues here, asking if nelson mandela will rest in peace. eknow that, a man just told me that. he met nelson mandela in prison. they became long time friends. he was a mentor. thank you very much, i'm sorry for your loss. thank you for joining us. right after if riots in 19ex, you were put in prison. so you were a part of the new guard fighting apartheid, that's when you met nelson mandela, certainly the face of the old guard. what was his face to you?...
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eight years before the free nelson mandela campaign which launched nelson mandela as a symbol of the anti apartheid movement. when he went underground when nelson mandela was criminalized, he sent out a generation of people to tell people who was happening in south africa, my step-dad was one of those, the first wave. the second wave was during the sow soweto uprising. they got scholarships all over the world. several went to the united states, they basically tried to tell the world what was going on in south africa. >> i once asked the question why nelson mandela, why south africa, when there were so many other problems around the world. i was told that south africa was so stark, so black, so white, so easy for people to understand. is that the way your stepfather explained why so many people go ahead involved in the free nelson mandela movement in what appears to be an apathetic world today? >> yeah, i think there's a resonance with what happened here in the united states in terms of segregation and our history of segregation. there was a parallel that happened on the continent in
eight years before the free nelson mandela campaign which launched nelson mandela as a symbol of the anti apartheid movement. when he went underground when nelson mandela was criminalized, he sent out a generation of people to tell people who was happening in south africa, my step-dad was one of those, the first wave. the second wave was during the sow soweto uprising. they got scholarships all over the world. several went to the united states, they basically tried to tell the world what was...
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south africa's memorials for nelson mandela. the remembrances far and wide as president obama and other world leaders head to johannesburg. >>> stunning announcement from singer susan boyle who captivated the world with her humble roots and winning voice. ♪ i dreamed a dream in time gone by ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> private diagnosis and why she's decided to make it public. it is monday, december 9th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now" with john muller and diana perez. >>> good monday morning, everybody. how was your commute in? >> it actually wasn't so terrible. i know i'm one of the lucky ones. what was the west churning has hit us now. >> philadelphia really got bombed where i am on the jersey shore not too far away, maybe 90 minutes away, got six inches. it is wintertime. >> you are closer to the water than i am. i probably got three inches. still bad. >> let's talk about the wicked stuff out there. we begin with then storm that moved to the east coast, heavy snow and ice that triggered deadly pileu
south africa's memorials for nelson mandela. the remembrances far and wide as president obama and other world leaders head to johannesburg. >>> stunning announcement from singer susan boyle who captivated the world with her humble roots and winning voice. ♪ i dreamed a dream in time gone by ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> private diagnosis and why she's decided to make it public. it is monday, december 9th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now"...
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they're on their way to south africa to pay tribute to nelson mandela. tomorrow's national memorial service will serve as a rare reunion of nearly all the living american presidents. president george w. bush and laura bush, also on that plane. and secretary clinton on the plane. president clinton and jimmy carter traveling separately. president george h.w. bush is the only living president not to attend. the 89-year-old is no longer able to travel such long distances. >>> iraq war veteran brutally gunned down while christmas shopping for his parents. 32-year-old national guardsman jim vester was killed responding to a craigslist ad for an ipad in indianapolis. police arrested two teenage brothers and then charging them with murder. in the wake of his death, his friends set up a support fund for his wife and one-year-old son, gavin. you can see them right there. if you're interested in donating, log on to caring.com and search love and support for jamie and his family. >>> he cut off his arm to free him stretch a boulder and inspired the movie "127 hours"
they're on their way to south africa to pay tribute to nelson mandela. tomorrow's national memorial service will serve as a rare reunion of nearly all the living american presidents. president george w. bush and laura bush, also on that plane. and secretary clinton on the plane. president clinton and jimmy carter traveling separately. president george h.w. bush is the only living president not to attend. the 89-year-old is no longer able to travel such long distances. >>> iraq war...
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the home where nelson mandela died. we have been seeing a lot of people coming outside in the past few days laying flowers, paying their respects. we understand according to african tradition, nelson mandela's wife is sitting on a mattress in the living room in the lounge and receiving people throughout the day. she will be essentially sitting in that position welcoming visitors and there are a lot of visitors. political leaders, friends. people from across south africa that have some sort of importance and they are coming to pay their respects to the widow. we are also hearing from mandela's closest assistant who has worked for him for nearly 20 years, and she gives us some sense what have it's like inside. >> sadness in the house but celebration i almost want to say. people are celebrating his life. they are grateful there and people are coming who haven't seen seen each other for years. that is the incredible thing people getting together again each in these days. >> he was suffering, i understand, quite a lot in tho
the home where nelson mandela died. we have been seeing a lot of people coming outside in the past few days laying flowers, paying their respects. we understand according to african tradition, nelson mandela's wife is sitting on a mattress in the living room in the lounge and receiving people throughout the day. she will be essentially sitting in that position welcoming visitors and there are a lot of visitors. political leaders, friends. people from across south africa that have some sort of...
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they are set to attend the memorial service for nelson mandela. nelson mandela died thursday at the age of 95. >> also happening today new safety measures in the bronx in new york where a commuter train derailed. they told them this slow down when approaching a speed change. on december 1st the commuter train was going about 82 miles an hour approaching a 30 mile opinion hour curve. he actually dove off and he breaked but it was too late. >>> all eyes on a courtroom when a newlywed goes to trial for allegedly killing her husband. she pushed him off a cliff 8 days after the wedding. she pushed him from behind he fell face first to his death. this contradicts the defense argument he fell after graham pushed his arm away during a fight. >> a serious snowball fight sparked an investigation at the university of oir gone. they dumped snow on one man to tried to confront the prank officer. he will determine if charges should be filed. >> do we want to know do these students want to be charged criminally for throwing snowballs. you can tweet them to us at
they are set to attend the memorial service for nelson mandela. nelson mandela died thursday at the age of 95. >> also happening today new safety measures in the bronx in new york where a commuter train derailed. they told them this slow down when approaching a speed change. on december 1st the commuter train was going about 82 miles an hour approaching a 30 mile opinion hour curve. he actually dove off and he breaked but it was too late. >>> all eyes on a courtroom when a...
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. >> when we come back the passing of nelson mandela brings a tidal wave of tribute from the media. we'll look at how he's being remembered. >>> let'look at the front pages across the couny. he let his country it of the s apartheid. >> titan of the century has diet. >> for million whose loved him in 9 modern country he formed the hope and light the world. >> a moral hero for the ages, the greatest men of our time is dead tonight. >> i don't think there is any queen when people think of ice conic figures that transcend global understanding of freedom's struggle and inspire people no matter where they are from, no matter their race, their religion, nelson mandela's name will be among them. >> he did not pretend to be 10 saint. coverage has taken note mistakes but he was such a courageous moral leader and a symbol the coverage can barely convey his gacy. what struckou most about the continuing coverage leading up to this? >> it was refreshing we live in an age where everyone prides himself on scoring points for one side or another and the media is increasingly partisan and polarized an
. >> when we come back the passing of nelson mandela brings a tidal wave of tribute from the media. we'll look at how he's being remembered. >>> let'look at the front pages across the couny. he let his country it of the s apartheid. >> titan of the century has diet. >> for million whose loved him in 9 modern country he formed the hope and light the world. >> a moral hero for the ages, the greatest men of our time is dead tonight. >> i don't think there is...
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martin luther king, as well as nelson mandela? >> i would say that my uncle was always a peaceful warrior. he fought for peace, justice. he wanted to end oppression. but he held on to that his whole life. of course, nelson mandela only acquired some of those qualities later in life. however, i believe they both went through the fire. i believe that they were forged to beeaders and to resist oppression, and martin luther king, jr. fought for that here in america, and nelson mandela fought so hard in south africa, but those two movements did finally meet, and i think that was their commonality. >> i think both of these men were nobel peace prize winners. both remarkable in that they overcame extraordinary odds of racism, and in for nelson mandela, national apartheid. when he came out of prison he came out different. filled with humility and grace and a gentleness he took with him when he was elected to office and worked with the very people who villainized him for a all of his life. hodoes a person come to the place where they can p
martin luther king, as well as nelson mandela? >> i would say that my uncle was always a peaceful warrior. he fought for peace, justice. he wanted to end oppression. but he held on to that his whole life. of course, nelson mandela only acquired some of those qualities later in life. however, i believe they both went through the fire. i believe that they were forged to beeaders and to resist oppression, and martin luther king, jr. fought for that here in america, and nelson mandela fought...
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so as i say it and, it's fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and nelson mandela used the same motto and guys like tom jones, white working class who makes common cause with those below him rather then turns him into the enemy. >> host: is the thomas frank what's the matter with kansas idea that you quote in the book which is this argument you're hating the wrong people. like instead of taking the clifford powers that have shifted your job completely overseas and forgot about you you hate the people below you, you hate women, black people. >> guest: i have great respect for that argument as well because i think that there is a kind of distraction going on very often and it's a very seductive distraction. >> host: one of your most original chapters is about the rampage shooter and what we did wrong and you sort of reconceive who he is. can you talk about that? >> host: the school shooter. >> guest: i also have a chapter on the guys that go postal. >> host: i mean the young school shooters, like the columbine and those guys. just cut i'm flattered that you think i have a new take
so as i say it and, it's fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and nelson mandela used the same motto and guys like tom jones, white working class who makes common cause with those below him rather then turns him into the enemy. >> host: is the thomas frank what's the matter with kansas idea that you quote in the book which is this argument you're hating the wrong people. like instead of taking the clifford powers that have shifted your job completely overseas and forgot about you...
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said as i see a said at the ends fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and john mandela -- nelson mandela, the guys like tom jones or bruce springsteen as another example, working class who makes common cause with those below him rather than turns them into the enemy. >> host: is the what's the matter with kansas idea you quoted in the book which is this argument. you are hating the argument. instead of hating the corporate powers that have shifted overseas and completely forgot about you and made no a men's you hate the people below you, you hate women, -- >> guest: and yes i have great respect for that argument as well because i think that there is a kind of distraction going on very often and it's a very seductive distraction. >> host: so one of your most original chapters is about the rampage shooter and what we get wrong. you sort of reconceived the rampage shooter is but can you talk about? >> guest: the rampage school shooter. i also have a chapter on the guys that go postal. >> host: that's different. i named a young school shooters like columbine. >> guest: i'm flattered
said as i see a said at the ends fascinating to me that both timothy mcveigh and john mandela -- nelson mandela, the guys like tom jones or bruce springsteen as another example, working class who makes common cause with those below him rather than turns them into the enemy. >> host: is the what's the matter with kansas idea you quoted in the book which is this argument. you are hating the argument. instead of hating the corporate powers that have shifted overseas and completely forgot...
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but you're about to meet the little boy who inspired nelson mandela. it was just more than a decade ago, the world first met little nkosi johnson, the south african boy born with hiv. he'd lost his mother to aids, and at a time when south africa was unwilling to talk about the disease, nkosi bravely stood before the world and did. >> we are normal. we are human beings. we can walk, we can talk. we have needs just like everyone else. we are all the same. thank you. >> reporter: that woman, giving the thumbs-up right there, is the woman who would adopt him, gail johnson. and the two of them together would start a shoe-string shelter for mothers with aids and their children. they called it nkosi's haven. >> we're full. this is a small house. it can't fit the other mothers who are hiv. they are dying. >> reporter: it was a year after that the world lost little nkosi. but years later, we decided to travel back to south africa to check in on the mother that adopted him. >> that's the baby daycare center. >> reporter: we found a sprawling village she built in
but you're about to meet the little boy who inspired nelson mandela. it was just more than a decade ago, the world first met little nkosi johnson, the south african boy born with hiv. he'd lost his mother to aids, and at a time when south africa was unwilling to talk about the disease, nkosi bravely stood before the world and did. >> we are normal. we are human beings. we can walk, we can talk. we have needs just like everyone else. we are all the same. thank you. >> reporter: that...